The 7speed dsg automatic transmissionor dq200is a transmission that is growing rapidly in popularity. Jul 02, 2019 comparing the mazda 3 to the vw golf, two small hatchbacks with manual transmissions that compete at the affordable end of the newcar spectrum. A transverse dual clutch transmission, it was brought in to supercede the 6speed dq250 dsg unit, and is finding itself in more and more vehicles. Common faults in the 6speed dsg automatic transmission. I thought i would still ask everyone if dsg is a way to go or a manual transmission. Im new to vw as it is my first, and i want to feel better about my choice.
The dsg automatic transmission combines elements from both automatic and manual transmissions. In tandem, the dsg and tsi engine work as the perfect pair, providing power, efficiency, and smoothness of the highest level. Is the 2015 volkswagen golf gti better to drive with a manual transmission or with its dsg dualclutch. Anyone regret buying a golf r in an auto vs manual. Jan 18, 2019 the 7speed dsg automatic transmissionor dq200is a transmission that is growing rapidly in popularity. Whilst we criticised the audi a3 for being rather placid and even sterile, despite the manual gearbox, it was much to our surprise that the 7speed dsg gearbox in the golf made the drive that much more pleasurable. Manual v dsg grapschknutsch 14th apr 2018 im very curious, why nobody compares acceleration with a certain rpm limit like staying below 3000 or 4000rpm.
The goal was to determine which is the better choice. How reliable is the dq250 6 speed as compared to dq200 7. For me i was almost on the fence bw choosing manual or dsg until i found out canadian dsg tdis. Vehicles that are refined and smoothdriving are getting the new eightspeed automatic, such as is found in the 2018 volkswagen tiguan or the upcoming 2019 volkswagen arteon. Steve sutcliffe and david vivian lock horns and you can have your say.
Dsg is just a preferenceoptions and weather its better than manual or not is relative. The times in this video were taken on a slight incline and they vary from other sources as this is. Common faults in the 7speed dsg automatic transmission. I then move gearlever to park, reverse and drive, it goes again. Gearshift is very smooth compared to my mk2 golf gti, and is so nice. For right now, only one car in all of north america can be purchased with vw s sevenspeed, dualclutch dsg transmission and it is, of course, the golf r. The dq250 can take up to around 350 nm of torque, is mainly paired to 2liter turbo engines and weighs 90 kg 200 lb in frontwheel drive applications, so slightly more than a manual.
The 7th generation or mk 7 vw gti is one of the closest matches to the focus sts size, performance, and price. Im going to the vw dealer this friday and hope to drive a gti home. I tested both the manual and dsg prior to purchasing my mk7 r and found the wife found the dsg to be a little more suited to our needs considering the wife occasionally wants to have a steer. With sleek, aerodynamic design and 228 hp, the golf gti has performance in the bag. Learn more about bramgate volkswagen and your ontario community. With its frontwheeldrive layout, punchy engine and compact dimensions, the mk7 volkswagen golf gti is not only supremely competent. If you own a golf gti, an audi a3 with a 6speed s tronic or a. There is no way in the world would i pick the manual golf r over the dsg equipped one. I wanted a manual and wasnt at all interested in dsg. I was a manual driver for quite a few years, and was completely sold on the idea of another manual. Watch the video with the vw golf r dsg vs manual after the jump. Some days i wish i had a manual but all in all i love the dsg, it is so fast and i love how it downshifts coming up to a light to stop in sport mode, makes me giggle like a child. Offering the best of both manual and automatic standard transmissions, the dsg dualclutch transmission is now available in the vw golf.
There are so few complaints about them going wrong on here i have to assume they are pretty reliable. To our surprise our new lapiz blue vw golf r demo is a manual, not dsg as. The vw figure is a better than average one for its. Dec 01, 2014 we estimate that the dsg golf r will make the sprint to 60 in about 4. Everyone says dsg is very good, but i guess i will have to test drive gti with dsg and see how i like it. Hi, im new here, and i this thread is probably somewhere, but after a bit of searching i couldnt find it, so if someone could point me to it, thatd be great, if it really doesnt exist, well here it is and i am surprised. I do like manual, but i wouldnt mind dsg if it gives me same pick up as manual if you. Recently, they pitted the 2018 golf r manual against the 2018 golf r dsg, which is our automatic transmission, against each other. Volkswagen shifts golf into high gear with 7speed dsg. Honda has the civic type r, fords focus rs is worth having a look at, then theres the renault megane r.
This is due to the fact that unlike the 6speed dsg, it has dry clutches and two different oil circuits. Offering the best of both manual and automatic standard transmissions, the dsg dualclutch transmission is now available in the vw. Volkswagen groups dsg gearbox explained autoevolution. Dec 20, 2007 volkswagen shifts golf into high gear with 7speed dsg. The most formidable is the longrunning volkswagen golf gti. Hi all, im in the market for the golf 7 tsi and split between a dsg and manual, i know dsg is brilliant on gti but hw does it go with a tsi engine, your. Its the instant gear changes that gets me and the noise when shifting up the box. Manual cars will likely be about a halfsecond slower. As a vw mechanic for many years, all i can say is that in my experience, they seem to be very reliable. Maybe i just need to give it more time and perhaps live with it for a while before. I test drove a manual, and although it felt nice, i still went with the dsg.
So, as the title suggests, which one should i go for. Ive seen a van which ticks all the boxes for me, however its dsg and i wasnt overly impressed with it when i test drove it. Jun 26, 2018 the dq250 can take up to around 350 nm of torque, is mainly paired to 2liter turbo engines and weighs 90 kg 200 lb in frontwheel drive applications, so slightly more than a manual. I test drove both, and was very impressed with the dsg. Having driven a manual for 30 years i still occasionally reach for the clutch pedal out of instinct. Ford focus st vs vw golf gti comparison cj pony parts. I was in the same boat a few years ago when buying a mk5 golf gti. Once you get comfortable with their performance characteristics, its a pretty solid transmission. The r32 is basically the golf to get, we all know that, theres no. Dsg vs manual vw golf r mk7 chat vwroc vw r owners club. For me i was almost on the fence bw choosing manual or dsg until i found out canadian dsg tdis dont come with the shifter paddle. I drive a 2015 volkswagen golf gti with the dsg transmission to try and answer the question manual or dsg big thank you to vorderman. Yuri and jakub, from the straight pipes, pitted the 2018 golf r manual against the 2018 golf r dsg, which is our automatic transmission, against each other.
Dsg or manual vw golf r mk7 chat vwroc vw r owners club. And while manual and dsg versions have the same combined fuel economy at. As you can see, the dsg is currently reserved for models that are more performancefocused, like the hot hatches and the v6 passat. Is the vw golf r better with a manual or automatic gearbox. The dsg adds little to the dynamics and plenty to the final price, and spoils those classleading co2 figures. Because the new dsg can do everything better than a manual gearbox. May 14, 2015 is the 2015 volkswagen golf gti better to drive with a manual transmission or with its dsg dualclutch. We realize that for many diehard sports car fans, manual is the only way to go. Generation 3 19921998 the 3rd generation of the vw golf brought modern styling, a new diesel engine, and three new body styles to eager fans worldwide. I had a manual subaru impreza before which i loved but ive had multiple issues with. I didnt test drive anything when coming to this, my first, golf but i knew all along that whatever car i got it was going to be automatic after 20 years of driving manual. But lets say youre set on vw s golf r should you stick to the manual or get the dsg instead.
Vw golf r dsg v manual video 12 may 2010 they main problem with the manual, in this rather pointless 060 exercise, is that second gear doesnt take you to 60, which is a bit odd. A look at the fuel economy and driving performance data of the golf, with and without 7. Comparing the mazda 3 to the vw golf, two small hatchbacks with manual transmissions that compete at the affordable end of the newcar spectrum. How reliable, generally, is the automatic in a new gti sport. A week ago i would of said manual all the way, but i bought a rocco gt with the dsg box on monday and its amazing. Manual mode on dsg is way more fun and engaging than true manual. Maybe the issue is when comparing the dsgstronic to the manual audi s4 or gti or golf r etc, since those vw group manuals are all a bit on the clunky side, with long throws. My primary reason for wanting auto was to make long. Dsg may get round a track quicker but manual drivers may have more fun doing it and vice versa. If the manual offers far better reliability, then how much slower is it vs the automatic assuming good driver skills.
Our covid19 community guidelines tips, advice and news related to trading on gumtree during the covid19 crisis. But can it hold a candle to the manual transmission. One note, i had a gti in manual and the clutch left something to be desired, it was a bit weak as far as tuning goes, and dsgs in general have much stronger clutches so that is just something to budget for if you plan on tuning no clutch replace on dsg, will probably have to replace clutch on a manual. Overall the dimensions grew again, though the wheelbase remained the same. Although vw s dsg dualclutch automated manual is a good, reasonably sporty automatic, it is still an. My primary reason for wanting auto was to make long journeys in heavy traffic more comfortable.
With the update to the golf family comes a new transmission, straight from the skunkworks in wolfsburg. Looking in to get a 2015 gti, but i am not sure if i should go with dsg or manual. Alternatively, watch the vw golf r dsg versus manual video here. Mar 01, 2018 but lets say youre set on vw s golf r should you stick to the manual or get the dsg instead. A look at the fuel economy and driving performance data of. Hi all, looking to get my first golf specifically r or gti, ive always driven manuals and love the ability to control the car but clearly the appeal of the dsg has got me curious. Nearly 7million 2nd generation golfs sold during their 9year run, solidifying it as a favorite around the world. We have a manual golf and i have the odd moment when i forget, but the dsg takes one of the stressful aspects of driving today completely out of the equation. Thanks in advance and hopefully i can answer any questions in. David zalstein and tony crawford tackle the question using one of the worlds best and most. There are lots of articles online about the failure of volkswagen dsgs and the recall they did some years ago for this but they all seem to be from the mk6. Hello everyone im currently in the market for a vw golf tdi. We estimate that the dsg golf r will make the sprint to 60 in about 4. Nov 14, 2014 volkswagen groups dsg gearbox explained.
Drive with confidence, knowing were here for you when. I find that the 7 speed golf has a much sharper clutch engagement from rest, such that i. This of course assumes you take care to maintain your dsg every 40,000. Ive test drove the manual version in the dealer i loved it just wandering how does the dsg version compare to the manual in terms of performance practicality etc. Acquired my 2010 golf tdi 6spd manual 122209 sold 12311 my moms got the 2002 red jetta tdi that she loves.
In this article, well compare the focus st vs gti with the assumption that youre looking at the used market. But then i drove a golf r dsg and manual back to back. May 31, 2016 hi all, new to the forum looking to make my purchase of a golf r. I just enjoy changing gear, and acutally feel more in control of the car. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. I tested both the manual and dsg prior to purchasing my mk7 r and found the wife found the dsg to be a little more suited to. Although vws dsg dualclutch automated manual is a good, reasonably sporty automatic, it is still an automatic. Volkswagen ags dsgs direct shift gearbox could be found in the mk5, mk6, and mk7 golf, gti.
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